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The American tech giants – Facebook in this instance – still don’t get it over the NSA spying programmes

February 25, 2014 Leave a comment Go to comments
Zuckerberg at the 37th G8 summit in 2011 (Wikipedia)

Zuckerberg at the 37th G8 summit in 2011 (Wikipedia)

The following is a transcription of a brief interview given by Mark Zuckerberg. The original can be found on TechCrunch here.

I’ve tidied it up a bit – removed the ‘ums’ and ‘rights’ and ‘you knows’ – just to make it more legible. I struggled over that because they clearly demonstrate where Zuckerberg is comfortable and where he is not comfortable with what he says; but I went ahead because what he says rather than his level of comfort is important to me. Anyway, here’s what is left:

We take our role really seriously. I think its my job and our job to protect everyone who uses Facebook and all the information that they share with us. It’s our government’s job to protect all of us and also to protect our freedoms and protect the economy, and companies; and I think they did a bad job of balancing those things. So frankly I think that the government blew it. I think that they blew it on communicating what they [were doing]; basically the balance of what they were going for.

The morning after the start of [the scandal] breaking, people asked [the government] what they thought; and the government’s comment was, “Oh don’t worry, basically we’re not spying on any Americans.”

Right. Wonderful. That’s really helpful to companies who are trying to serve people around the world, and [it’s] really gonna inspire confidence in American internet companies. Thanks for going out there and being really clear about what you’re doing. I think that was really bad.

We’ve being pushing just to get more transparency on this, and I actually think we’ve made a big difference. The big question that you get from all the coverage is, what’s the volume of the total number of requests going on? Is it closer to a thousand requests that the government is making of us, or is it closer to 100 million? I mean, from the coverage and from what the government has said you would not know the difference. But we worked really hard with the government, behind the scenes, to get to the point where we could release the aggregate number of requests. It was around 9000 in the last half year.

Does that number tell us everything we want? No. And that’s why when the conversations get to the point where we weren’t going to make further progress, we decided to sue them so that we could reveal, is it 1000 or 2000 or 3000 or 4000 or 8000 of the 9000 requests. But the reality is, because of the transparency that we pushed for, now people can know and deserve to know that the number of requests that the government is making is closer to 1000 (it’s 9000 or less in the last six months), and definitely not, you know, 10 million or 100 million…

Really, Mark? Do you think that knowing the NSA made just over 1000 requests for your customers’ details rather than 9000 makes it all right – and that they can carry on, without judicial oversight, as they are? It’s the fact, not the volume, of NSA spying that is wrong, just plain wrong. Until the American tech giants stop hiding behind their really quite meaningless ‘transparency’ demands and empty successes over the NSA, then anger – and especially non-American anger – will remain at a high level.

Oh; and did I mention the word ‘hypocrite’? Facebook suggesting that the NSA isn’t taking sufficient care over users’ privacy? Really?

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